Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson is flat out denying that President Obama’s executive action on immigration was amnesty. During a House Committee hearing on the department, Johnson was asked: “Is this amnesty?” by Rep. Bill Keating (D-MA).

“No.” Johnson replied shortly. “No, in my judgement.”

“Is it even functionally amnesty?” Keating asked.

“The current situation amounts to amnesty,” Johnson replied.