In a wide ranging interview with Paper magazine, Blink 182 co-founder Tom DeLonge opened up about his longtime belief in aliens, government coverups, and his theory that outer space and the extraterrestrial supersedes Christianity.

DeLonge told the publication that he first believed in the existence of aliens two decades ago. He also claims he has “sources from the government.”

“You have to understand, I’ve been involved in this for a long time. I have sources from the government. I’ve had my phone tapped,” he said. In regards to his phone lines being tampered with, DeLonge explained how there was “somebody” gathering hours of top secret testimony for government projects.

“The top 36 hours that summarized the best parts of all that footage, I had it hidden in my house for a period of time,” he continued.

The “Aliens Exist” singer was asked why the topic of outer space plays such a prominent role in his life, as his son’s name is Jonas Rocket, and he wrote a book called The Lonely Astronaut on Christmas Eve.

“I think it’s the biggest story of mankind. You take Christianity: a guy named Jesus came and died on the cross for everybody’s sins. That’s not as big of a story as what types of intelligence are living across the universe,” he explained.

Furthermore, DeLonge has a few words for those who mock his belief in UFO’s. “I’ve literally read 200 books on the subject, and I don’t spend my time looking at UFO reports or talking to little green men. I’m way past that. If anyone tells you there’s no life in [the] universe, you should be turned off,” he said, adding “That’s just such a dumb thing to say.”

The musician went on to discuss a real life scenario in which his knowledge about the supernatural almost got him into trouble.

One time I remember bringing up a very specific craft that I believe we’re building, in secret, to emulate the phenomenon that our government has been observing for decades.

So I started talking about the craft, and it’s magnetics light system and how it displaces over 89% of the mass of the ship, how it ionizes the engine, how it glows.

I went through the whole thing, and this engineer looks at me, this guy is 70 years old, and he goes, “You better be real f*cking careful about what you’re talking about.” And I go, “Okay, so I’m close,” And he goes, “I’m not f*cking kidding with you.

You better be really f*cking careful.” And he calls me up the next day and he goes, “I’ve had calls about you. If someone comes and asks you to get in their car, don’t fucking get in the car,” he said. “And that’s the sh*t I’m dealing with.”

Next, DeLonge told a story about a possible alien encounter at Area 51. The idea was to communicate with the extraterrestrial beings through frequency of thought. According to him, something odd happened on the second evening of his camping trip.

I woke up right around three a.m. My whole body felt like it had static electricity, and I open my eyes and the fire is still going, and there’s a conversation going on outside the tent.

It sounded like there were about 20 people there, talking. And instantly my mind goes, ok, they’re at our campsite, they’re not here to hurt us, they’re talking about shit, but I can’t make out what they’re saying.

But they’re working on something. Then I close my eyes and wake up, and the fire is out and I have about three hours of lost time.

DeLonge reports only one of his friends heard the same chatter, but “it sounded like English.” He went on to cite John Mack from Harvard’s psychiatry department, who reportedly almost lost his job because he started writing books about people getting abducted.

“Harvard tried to kick him out of the medical group, but they lost. He got hit by a car in mysterious circumstances. Pretty odd, right? But when you read his books and study what he was doing, a lot of people who have these contacts talk a lot about chatter, like you’re in the middle of people working. How fucking crazy is that? Nothing else. No footprints, no weird like marks or anything like that,” he said.

DeLonge then talked about the Department of Defense and how he thinks it creates conspiracies. “They place the conspiracy, just like 9/11. The main thing is that Terrace did it, to back up story they fed you was, “No, it was an inside job.” What’s the third story? Another nation state? An extra nation-state? You know? Who did that?” He said.

If DeLonge had the opportunity to ask an alien one question, it would be “How did it all start?” I bet they wouldn’t even know,” he declared.

You can read the entire Paper magazine Q&A here.