Dr Pat Michaels is one of the climate scientists that climate alarmists detest most of all. But this has never fazed him. In this conversation James and pat discuss everything between the scientific reality of climate change through to the prospects for the next president. 

Along the way, Pat takes no prisoners — not even the sceptics who he says are too keen to blame all of global warming on the sun. But it is the alarmists that Pat is most concerned with. Sooner or later the facts catch up with green zealots, he observes. From cherry-picking scientists to carbon-taxing prime ministers, alarmists eventually get caught out and thrown out.