Elon Musk used an appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience to speak in support of private gun ownership, making clear the ultimate purpose of an armed citizenry is to stop government tyranny.

Musk talked to Rogan about the First Amendment, noting it exists because America’s founders came from countries where people could be shot or imprisoned for speaking their mind.

He then referenced the Second Amendment, “The Second Amendment, the right to bear arms, is there to protect the freedom of speech.”

Musk also said, “The Second Amendment is there to stop the tyranny of government.”

Musk added, “I’ve had these debates, especially with people in LA–because they want to take everyone’s guns away–and I’m like, ‘Yo, can you guarantee me that we will never have a tyrannical government in the United States? Can you make that guarantee?’ And they’re like, ‘Well, nobody can make that guarantee.’ And I’m like, ‘Then we need to keep our guns.'”

AWR Hawkins is an award-winning Second Amendment columnist for Breitbart News and the writer/curator of Down Range with AWR Hawkins, a weekly newsletter focused on all things Second Amendment, also for Breitbart News. He is the political analyst for Armed American Radio, a member of Gun Owners of America, a Pulsar Night Vision pro-staffer, and the director of global marketing for Lone Star Hunts. He was a Visiting Fellow at the Russell Kirk Center for Cultural Renewal in 2010 and has a Ph.D. in Military History. Follow him on Instagram: @awr_hawkins. You can sign up to get Down Range at breitbart.com/downrange. Reach him directly: awrhawkins@breitbart.com.